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  • Substituting Oil in a Bain Marie

    Posted by thatch on July 13, 2020 at 11:19 am

    Any recommendation on whether or not oil should be replaced in a Bain Marie.  I found an old quote from Joe Dehner @Dehner Distillery”The Mobil product I use is $1750 a 55 gal drum and If I was going to sell it I would have to mark it up. O, and it has a flash point of 600 degrees. You never have to replace it.”    Doesn’t it ever break down?  Any insight from users or still manufacturers is appreciated.

    violentblue replied 4 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 4 Replies
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  • skaalvenn

    Member
    July 13, 2020 at 3:07 pm

    Depends on the watt density per square inch of the heating elements used in the oil, and if there’s active circulation.Thermal oil can and will break down over time, especially if exposed to oxygen and brought past it’s thermal boundaries.

  • thatch

    Member
    July 13, 2020 at 5:51 pm

    Thanks, for the response.  Is there a way to tell if replacement is necessary?

  • skaalvenn

    Member
    July 13, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    Basically from what I was told, if it looks like something you wouldn’t run in your old lawnmower then it’s done.  We had some heating elements that were not low watt density and the system was open to the air, so they had quite a bit of oil coked on them.  Heatup and cooldown of the system caused air exchange, which greatly increased oxidation.  The types of things learned years after building the still…

    The still ran fine for years, but you could tell performance was suffering.  I did try replacing it with a non-oil based high performance heating fluid (glycol based if I remember right?), and that was a mistake–it smelled like permanent markers when the still was running, but again that was likely due to the high watt density.Switched to steam about a year ago, and my god is it worth the up front cost.

  • violentblue

    Member
    July 13, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    If you have a local source for Bio-Diesel thats what you want. just make sure its 100% bio, not blended with petro. heavier lipids are eliminated in favor of light, so you wont get the same plasticizing that standard vegetable oil will do.

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