Forum Rules, Notifications and Helpful Hints

Explore the community of craft distillers and discover the largest professional association dedicated to the art and science of craft distillation. ACE DISTILLER has been serving all levels, from novice enthusiasts to seasoned professionals, in the craft distilling industry since 2010.

Home Forums Equipment Questions About Chiller Sizing

  • Questions About Chiller Sizing

    Posted by hedgebird on June 5, 2024 at 8:04 pm

    Just looking to run this math past everyone and make sure nothing looks way off.

    300 gallon mashtun crashing 70 degrees is 174,930 btu or 7,289 btu/hr.

    300 gallon carb tank crashing 70 degrees is another 174,930 btu or 7,289 btu/hr.

    3×300 gallon ferments is about 118,125 btu or 1,641 btu/hr over the three day ferment.

    Total daily BTU load would be 389,232 or 16,218/hr.

    If I have a 5hp chiller that puts out 30,000 btu/hr, thats provides 720,000 BTU cooling per day.  Presumably this would be plenty to cover loses from ineficiency, etc?

    Additional Notes:

    – no stills are connected to the chiller

    – have a 1,000 gallon cold liquor tank for crash cooling the mash..

    -spreadsheet math below

     

    Thanks for any feedback!

     

    Pull Down/Crash Cooling Load
    Tank Size and Weight Crash Cooling BTU Required / Per Hour Notes
    Tank Size lb Total LB Strt Temp End Temp Temp Dif. Total BTU   BTU/hr  
    950 8.33 7,914 77 54 23 182,011   7,584 1,000 gallon cold liquor tank
    300 8.33 2,499 155 85 70 174,930   7,289 300 gallon mash-tun
    300 8.33 2,499 100 30 70 174,930   7,289 Carbination tank
                       
                       
    Fermentation Load
    Tank Size and Brix Fermenting BTU Required / Per Hour Notes
    Tank Size Ferments Total Gal Brix Total Brix   Total BTU Ferm Hrs BTU/hr  
    300 3 900 15 422   118,125 72 1,641 Three 300 gallon fermenters
                       
                       
    Total Load
                BTU Required / Per Hour Notes
            Total BTU   BTU/24hr  
                467,985   16,218  
    silk city distillers replied 6 months, 1 week ago 2 Members · 1 Reply
  • 1 Reply
  • silk city distillers

    Member
    June 7, 2024 at 10:09 am

    The biggest risk is crash cooling during active fermentation, where you warm your CLT, and subsequently your chiller coolant loop temperature above the set points of the fermenters or your carb tank (which would be cooler).  One active strategy here would be to pre-chill your CLT even further the night before mashing, which would allow you to store more BTUs of cooling capacity.

    We run a similar setup, except our coolant tank runs the still, not the crash cooling.  We recover the hot water from crash cooling in our HLT for mashing.

    You likely would not be able to mash twice in one day with this setup.  We run into this issue with distilling twice in one day.  We run water as our coolant, so we can easily dump the holding tank on very hot days and refill with cold ground water.  Not ideal, but a few times a year doesn’t seem so bad.

     

Log in to reply.

en_USEnglish