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  • How to Remove Charcoal Particles from Barrel-Aged Rum

    Posted by wise men distillery on October 30, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    Hey all, we are just getting ready to bottle our barrel aged spiced rum.  We noticed even with our inline fine mesh screen on our filler, that tiny charcoal particles are making through.  What’s the best way to filter these particles without taking away from flavors?

     

    thanks in advance!

     

    Zack

    michaelattcw replied 5 years, 1 month ago 9 Members · 11 Replies
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  • hedgebird

    Member
    October 30, 2019 at 2:05 pm

     

     

    5 and .5 micron filters in series is what typically gets recommended..

  • wise men distillery

    Member
    October 30, 2019 at 2:25 pm

    Thanks Hedge, have to spruce up on my searching skills!

  • michaelattcw

    Member
    October 30, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    We sell a lot of cartridge filters in those sizes. The most popular ones we sell are Graver QMC from 0.6 to 10µ, and Graver GFC 1µ.

    Probably the next most common question I hear after “how long do filters last before they clog?” is “what size do I use to filter out particles without removing flavor?”. For spirits it would be pretty challenging to remove flavor using normal dead-end filtration like the cartridges linked above. The things that add flavor to your spirit are almost certainly entirely dissolved in solution. That is to say, they are not particles that would be caught in a filter, but are liquids that will pass right through. Unless you are running your spirits through nanofiltration or ultrafiltration, you can rest assured that filters are just removing the large particles like bit of charcoal dust, bits of barrel char, etc., and not having any impact on flavor.

  • silk city distillers

    Member
    October 31, 2019 at 11:22 am

    Smaller (tighter) the filter, the prettier the spirit looks.

    Something about the sparkle, clarity, brightness you get from sub-micron filtration that makes the spirit way more visually appealing.

    We are totally crazy, because we see nothing wrong with going as low as .22, or .1, with brown spirits.

     

  • beach time

    Member
    November 19, 2019 at 12:57 pm

    After visiting a distillery in Denver and seeing how they managed this problem, I had adapted their strategy and use a diaphragm pump to empty my barrels in place without disturbing the char sediment.  If you have barrels stacked up you might consider getting them unstacked and lined up a few days prior so they resettle and then decant the clear spirit out.  I do a 1 micron depth filter + 0.5 micron absolute polish and don’t get nearly as much binding/plugging of the filters doing this way….

  • michaelattcw

    Member
    November 19, 2019 at 3:57 pm

    It’s not a bad idea, and quite often it’s how wineries deal with the same issue, where lees and sediment collect at the bottom of the barrel. Our curved barrel racking wands allow you to angle into barrels already sitting on a rack without having to move them around, and they have an adjustable bolt at the bottom that allows you to keep the inlet of the wand off the very bottom where all the crud is.

  • stumpys

    Member
    November 19, 2019 at 4:00 pm

    We run a 3 micron bag filter then a 1 micron 20″ code 7 depth cartridge filter for aged product. When we dump a barrel, we dump it through a stainless gin basket (well, used to be a gin basket) to catch all of the big chunks.

  • et1883

    Member
    November 20, 2019 at 9:00 pm

    Hi Stumpy – we have some 5- and 1-micron bags on the way.  Which supplier are you using?  Links welcome or referrals.   Thanks!

  • ozdistilling

    Member
    November 21, 2019 at 2:42 pm

    3-5 uM for spiced or gold rums

    5um for dark (or you will loose colour)

    1-3 uM for white rums. But check flavour post filter.

    A 5uM filter will remove 99.9% of charcoal sediment.

  • john bassett

    Member
    December 27, 2019 at 6:11 pm

    Do you have any pump recommendations with the wands?  Just curious what people are using.

  • michaelattcw

    Member
    December 27, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    @John Bassett: Most distilleries use an air diaphragm pump sized according to their needs. Probably the most popular one we sell is the SimpleSpirits 43. They can pull liquid from about 15 feet dry, and 30 feet wet. The 43 is large enough that bits of char up to about 1/8″ won’t have any adverse effect. You can use smaller AODD pumps, but might want to put an inline mesh gasket screen to prevent solids from getting caught in the check valves.

    You can use an electric pump, but we recommend keeping the VFD control outside of any areas designated for C1D2. In those cases, an SQN 20 is a nice little pump that can self-prime from about 10 feet dry and uses a C1D2 motor. You could go centrifugal, but priming from barrels could be a pain.

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